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« on: May 10, 2008, 04:40:29 pm »

Hey this is how it was done in NWGL, it only makes it fair.

Can we have that done here? Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 04:48:17 pm »

Thing is with the NWGL, every team played every other team. Here, some clans are scheduled to play some other clans more than once, giving them less games on their scoreboard.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 06:30:11 pm »

Right, however if you remove the wins losses when clans drop out, it keeps it as even and fair as possible.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 09:37:04 pm »

And if it's possible the wins by PvP too...
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 10:24:02 pm »

Right, however if you remove the wins losses when clans drop out, it keeps it as even and fair as possible.
How is it fair? For example, if sov has played eon week 3 and we're on week 8, but suddenly they drop out, then all the clans that still haven't played eon will have one more week's worth score while sov has one of it's week matches removed, leaving us with a total score of only 7 weeks while we should have 8. Hope no1 takes offense on me using eon as an example, was the first that came to my mind.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 12:28:20 am »

Shouldn't it even out then though if you are the only one that played them? If you are not then the others would have theirs removed too.

TRoN for example has 2 bye weeks in a row, which is rediculous to begin with, but nonetheless are going to be 2 plus matches behind everyone else until they all get byes. After that whomever played T will then be one ahead, removing that one game will even everyone out.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 09:22:36 am »

That idea suck.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 10:51:26 am »

Just remove wins against those none-sense clans that actually never played a game (like PvP)
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2008, 11:53:07 am »

Removing all games vs dead clans is the most reasonable solution.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2008, 08:37:47 pm »

Nope. Change all leaving clans' wins to losses and whenever a team is supposed to play one of those the team will get a week off and a walk over
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2008, 09:59:22 pm »

Or just give every team that is supposed to play them and hasn't a win regardless. Then what do you do if you lost to that team?

Might as well just remove any existence of them including the records of those that played them.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2008, 01:04:48 pm »

Read what I wrote again, please.

If we do it your way some clans will have played more total matches and end up with a better score. Your way sucks
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2008, 09:41:13 pm »

Totals will even out though, wins against loser clans that drop out will not.

We had two weeks in a row of byes and will have less games and therefore less points than ALL the other clans from that alone, do you expect us to get extra points for having two byes? No the totals even out, the wins don't, its the only way to make it even.

Everyone can tell whom has more games than someone, so its easier to tell your relative position, but they cannot tell who won against dropout clans.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2008, 10:57:38 pm »

For right now, the games count. However, at the end of the season when I make a new page for "last season's winners", I will be sure to calculate the rankings without the dubious clans. At that point, the point system will be modified in such a way that clans are ranked on average points in case some clans play more than others.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2008, 11:41:20 pm »

Pingu, at least then give everyone else a win that didn't play them.

This has always been an issue in the leagues and it was handled by removing them or giving everyone else an equivalent win to even it out.
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