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« on: January 03, 2014, 01:41:29 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 12:50:15 am »

I'm trying to get some practice on the Deathmatch server but we can't change maps.  If needed, perhaps you or I could host a server while somebody fixes the deathmatch server. I need the deathmatch files but I don't know where they are.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 11:12:00 am »

The Deathmatch server would need to be restarted. Servers get bugged when they aren't used for a long time.

The first version of Deathmatch was created by "sweet!" in 2007 I think, but it was never played and it also sucked a lot. There was no dynamic spawn system (you could spawn camp), there was no rabid and the only weapons and items you could pick up was crossbow and meds. Also you got the same amount of points for each kill. There was only one map available: dm_arena made by Ithkul.

Then In early 2008 (under my direction and with sweet!'s coding skills) the Deathmatch mod was completely revised and rebalanced to what it is today. It was running on SFE+, which brought us into trouble as Django, from which I hired the Girls UK server, deleted that instance due to performance/security concerns. And all Deathmatch server files were lost. Luckily Sweet! didn't left Savage yet and had some relatively new version as backup and could recompile it. Mid 2008 Deathmatch was implemented into Savage XR, however stayed on an outdated balancing state for multiple years. Each successful NPC/Player kill triggered a too long speed buff (1.5 seconds). I can't say for sure if that has already been changed. If not, Deathmatch is still running on SFE+ and not XR 1.0. Which means it would be harder to set up multiple servers. Also, each map needs a .mcfg that defines spawn height and radius.

Anyways, concerning maps. After writing a mapping tutorial back in 2008, which you can now find here, there were plenty of people working on DM maps. Currently there are around 20 maps available, of which only few were ever finished, playable and even fewer decent.

The 3 best maps are:
dm_skull
dm_spero
dm_hopelesscathedral_e

Okay maps:
dm_fish_b
dm_penta_test

All other maps are either way too big or unfinished.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 02:54:28 pm »

I got confirmed by Groentjuh, that DeathMatch is running on SFE+ and not on XR 1.0 due to not yet being ported correctly to Savage XR.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 03:03:18 pm »

so Tirza you are able to fix whole stuff ? (like restart server).
Do we need more time for it ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 09:55:40 pm »

Did restart it some time in the afternoon
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 12:43:12 am »

Seems to be working. I haven't tried the next map function but it may be intentionally blocked since you are only ever in game (no warmup). Blazer, 5*, and I got some good games in, I'm glad I'm doing this comp for fun since there is zero probability that I won't be last.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 02:03:31 pm »

If 19 people sign up, what will you do with the 4 remaining?

How will this actually end? Using 19 people signed up as an example, in total how many games will each person play?
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 06:00:11 pm »

it will be 5,5,5 and last 4
if someone don't show up they play as 4 players.
Players will be at groups 5 players every group like in NDC
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 07:00:18 pm »

Yeah, but what will the group stages be, Bo1, Bo2, Bo3 or Bo5? And what the finals?
I don't think they should be playing only one map.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 07:03:56 pm »

Yeah, but what will the group stages be, Bo1, Bo2, Bo3 or Bo5? And what the finals?
I don't think they should be playing only one map.
why they shall play more maps?
what you mean by Bo1?
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 07:12:21 pm »

So each group plays one map and the winner goes into the finals?
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 08:52:49 pm »

yes
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 11:35:46 am »

so there will be 1 Group match and 1 final?
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 01:31:20 pm »

we will see how many players we will have
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