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1  Off Topic / Chat / Re: Oh phoe! on: May 13, 2017, 09:20:37 pm
why you guys have to keep poking phoe?

hes more legendary than any other
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2  Announcements / Main Page News / Re: Need help with stuff! on: March 18, 2017, 04:22:55 pm

I do have one important suggestion that I think has been overlooked. Shuffle and even votes are broken and need to be fixed. Shuffle should randomize players into teams while even votes should place players evenly according to K/D ratio (stats) for balance, those alone would help make the game less stacky and more enjoyable.

This has been discussed many times, and always concluded with being too hard to compare smurfs with other old accounts. Plus K/D is not what matters for the better player, building dmg, unit dmg and other factors must come into play.
As i see it whenever a team has 2 "superior" players, such as lets say Anti and 2far4u. People are fast on blaming Anti and 2far for stack. But the same team that is blaming is also 50% useless summ that doesnt push and goes for legis, getting goldstarved and loses. To program a perfect shuffle you must include too many factors that the server cant "see".
If there is a big patch coming up(And Clemens Daemon you have my big thumbs up for this), maybe it is time to implement some kind of tierscore, a rankingsystem of some kind.

Either Option 1.
A pointsystem such there was in HoN(MMR/PSR/whatever) where you gain points each time you win a game, and likewise loses points when you lose a game. The quantity of points is decided on how likley one team is to win against the other. After this has been around for some time, people will differ in points such that the amount you can win/lose is less/more. Im bad at writing my thoughts let me give you an example.

If this has system has been in place for 2 months and one team has Anti and 2far(sorry for using you guys) and their points are
Anti 1800
2far 1790

and they play vs a team with Uttar and another noob like Kenway
Uttar 1400
Kenway 20

then the points Anti and 2far will gain if they win is far less than the points when the other team lose, and the same with the opposite outcome.(20/1) (1/20). With this system, each player is motivated to balance in order to have the chance to win more points.

This system motivates the user to stick to one account.
Option 2
a rank system such as in RL CSGO and all other proper game.
from Silver 1 to Global(maybe we dont need 20 different ranks in this small game). If you can rank/derank from different tiers its easier for the server to get factors that are necassary in a shufflevote. Then they can shuffle and the server compares ranks on either teams and makes a greater shuffle than the shufflefunction that is implementet per date.

This option does not motivate users to stick to one account, but might be easier to implement than the other option.

Im a few beers down but i hope you guys got my point.
3  Newerth Hosted Competitions / Newerth Savage League (NSL) / Re: NSL 8 on: December 07, 2016, 02:41:09 am
i think DA can group up.. no?

no Tongue
4  Newerth Hosted Competitions / Team Threads 2016 / Re: Team The Battle on: September 26, 2016, 05:00:17 pm
This team is pretty OK.  Human Bow
5  Newerth Hosted Competitions / PuG Cup / Re: Signups on: August 26, 2016, 01:29:10 am
6  Savage XR / General Savage XR Discussion / Re: Savage Players Behaviour Nowadays on: July 25, 2016, 11:26:04 am
Thing is that some people are pretty fuqed up and breeds on other peoples sadness or anger. And this is more visual on the internet cause more of these people can justify it with thinking "its only the internett, people should not take other serious there".

The munich incident happened on the very same day 5 years after the killings of young children at Ut°ya in my country, and after that date til this very day there are people msg me "Anders was a true hero", "too bad you werent there" and stuff like this. Im not very butthurt but im more amazed that these people find joy in this things.

But i guess you have to deal with it, cause honestly no admins handle power too well, or just a quite few that ive seen. This game is pretty much dead and you could not hire a guy to babysit the server without getting payed to refmute idiots.

However you can kickvote or vote mute, that usually works.

I think savage is more trafficated by these retards cause we all know eachother, making it a strange connection within the community that makes people troll-horny.
7  Off Topic / Hi! My name is .. / Re: POLL: How did you hear about Savage? on: April 28, 2016, 07:59:58 am
I remember i playing this game after school at elementary to a mate with a proper computer. I havent spoken to this mate in a freakin long time and it is no big suprise this game is this old thinking about it.

Cant believe how excited i was when i look up this version of savage on youtube it looks so crap  Idiot
8  Newerth Hosted Competitions / NSL News / Re: NSL 7: Roster status on: April 20, 2016, 09:42:56 pm
Only Knights of Savage and DA require some work to be eglible to play NSL Smiley

i think toxic has a hard time knowing where to sign up, so cant you just count his reply here as a sign up? Tongue
And i just got reinvited so as far as i know we are good to go.
9  Savage XR / General Savage XR Discussion / Re: Savage still balanced or? on: April 08, 2016, 01:44:25 pm
Interesting... very interesting ) I always thought human were under-powered so maybe it is time for an increase of flux damage  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Learn to play with discharger and increase your aim
10  Savage XR / General Savage XR Discussion / Re: Savage still balanced or? on: April 07, 2016, 11:49:45 pm
Conclusion: It appears that beast are winning much more lately.
That actually is inline with my feeling.

Here are the recent stats. I'm biased since I nearly never play in T1 anymore, but the reason for that is that for many years I used to always join the weaker team. Human stacks eventually made me a beast player (an ironic label for myself).

Honestly id say this applies to me too.

My stats(hacked account, but i think that has little impact):

Fact is, Gridfon, that the people you assume are good are the ones that gets sadi/unbreakable or whatever but that dont count for squat. So you join the team with the assumed n44ps and still win cuz they go sac garrisons n stuff.
Compare how many times u see sac on beast to demo on human. The beast race is more reliable on pushing in order to defend itself(shield tower vs healing spire), and this is also a big factor in the balance-equation. The team that averagely wins the most is the team that gets the first push started. Beasts are more mobile so they are usually the first.

This does not mean the game is out of balance, and no game could ever be in balance unless both teams had the EXACT same choises such as in football or other sports where same set of rules and tools to use is applied to both teams.

You can maybe blame buffwastes, but fair to say i see buffs wasted by fraggers and n44ps on both teams so that has little impact.
Human is more layed-back and most human-players-only are too easy on the reloc.

Its tbh easier to demo a healingspire than saccing a shield(on average), you just see less people do that.
11  Newerth Hosted Competitions / Roster Regulation / Re: [DA] Deadly Alliance on: April 06, 2016, 03:29:20 am
And a fail because its his own DA tag Smiley

I never got my tag back after i got kicked when Kenway hacked me and leaked my pass :X
12  Newerth Hosted Competitions / Roster Regulation / Re: [DA] Deadly Alliance on: April 05, 2016, 06:11:13 pm
Guess i have to carry you guys once more ))))))
Name: HAIKA(Johnossi)
link: http://www.newerth.com/?id=stats&action=view&uid=1406450&pp=search_playername&pk=haika(johnossi)
13  Archive / General Discussion / Re: Savage 3 confirmed on: March 30, 2016, 12:04:56 pm
gaming-wise, thisis the game ive been most excited for ever.

keep the pred 3 hit kill on legi pls and you have kept the most important thing from savage 1
14  Announcements / Main Page News / Re: 2016 PUG CUP on: December 15, 2015, 03:11:17 am
dont have time for this one.

Nice initiative though and best of luck
15  Savage XR / General Savage XR Discussion / Re: Sentenza duel demos? on: September 04, 2015, 06:44:03 pm
I dunno about baton. He never showed up to the NDC1 finals vs bobbe. I'm sure he was excellent at the time, but today? Sas is good and you are right about ping. Main reason I'm playing other games than Savage is the ping. Even when my ping is good it feels cheap. I've been going to Smash tournaments, but so far still getting owned.

Never even heard of letscho, would be cool to see. (All old demos of pros are interesting actually.

if i ever get life in my old computer i can try upload some duel demos, i used to collect many demos,
but in due time, cuz that pc is located in Trondheim and my fat ass is located in Oslo.
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