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1  Announcements / Main Page News / Re: Map Jam 2015 on: March 16, 2015, 10:44:53 am
I remember once, like a year and a half ago I went crazy and I created 7 maps in 7 days. There is absolutely no damn way that anyone could invest that much time into mapping (14maps in 14days) without losing his mind, losing his job, or something along those lines.

Of course you can get even 20 maps in 14 days if you make them treeless and propless, flat pieces of shit such as kinixx. Just saying..
If newerth devs/admins/whoever decided to encourage making maps as mentioned "4t_kinixx, kongor lava stuff etc" then I'm just done. I can't be bothered anymore to keep saying "stop making maps that kill savage".

Good luck with puchi_fix_lol, kinixx_v04_beta_demo_testing, and frenzy_ts_flatNOGOLD_360noscope maps.

Aye.. who's idea was this? I would like to request a contact of that persons dealer.

PS: I totally agree with Tirza
2  Newerth Hosted Competitions / Season Six (Locked) / Re: Deadly Alliance on: November 22, 2014, 09:55:16 am
-Misch- http://www.newerth.com/?id=stats&action=view&uid=1385261&pp=search_playername&pk=-misch-
3  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Map Purge, interest? on: November 19, 2014, 11:08:09 am
Fellow savage,
   As far as I can tell nearly everyone agrees that:

Buggy maps should go offline.
Bad maps should stay out of rotation, but stay voteable.
Good/fresh maps should go into rotation. The rotation has some flexibility, for example you could have a small, changing selection or every map deemed "good" or "new" stay and change it very little.

  Discussions about servers overriding are just occluding this consensus.

Shall we define certain maps "bad" from whatever objective or subjective perspective, I can't see any reason to leave them online in the first place.

But of course, there is no such thing as good or a bad map (as I have learnt) - some people, regardless of their numbers, are always going to disagree with whatever is given to them, no matter how good, bad, new or old, complex or simple, innovative or SFE-ish.

Thus I say - let the community bathe in their own shit, also formally known as kinixx, puchi, minimax and similar, so to speak - bad maps
4  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 07:30:41 pm
I don't know if you remember but the guy with the leaked pwd of yours have been kicking ppl around for like 2 or 3 days without you taking action.
The "hacks" occured while Groent was nowhere near home, and even remotely accessing anything was a huge hassle.
He took action once possible.

Refs were pretty much powerless as they got kicked on sight.
Yeah, people need to stop using the same password for various different things.
G&G forum wasn't hacked per se, but due to ref player forum accounts having the same password, yeah...
May that be a lesson to them.



This is just sad.
Both Misch and Amy admit to having done it, yet they both don't understand why they weren't allowed to. Undecided
Guess we're done here.
Move along.

I'm not blaming anyone.. I know that what I've done was ilegal, however I did the right thing. So that people could continue playing in peace. I did not use the ref power, as the guy left as soon as he discovered that his old password does not work. Besides I was transparent about the whole thing. So please stop trying to make it look like I've hurt somebody with that.
5  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 06:09:29 pm
I've shown the developers/admins way worse ways of map abuse. That's why we used to have a mapsection with skilled mapadmins that knew that part of their role.

and Misch, can you show proof of me allowing you to do that? I can't really remember I would ever give someone that permission....

I said you did not say a word against it. No that you said "go ahead Misch". I don't know if you remember but the guy with the leaked pwd of yours have been kicking ppl around for like 2 or 3 days without you taking action. Refs were pretty much powerless as they got kicked on sight. So I loaded the map with different refpwd and the guy came online and went like "they changed pwd... not fun anymore" and he left. I gave the password to all the referees that were online at the time "JmZ, Moxy and I think even 5* at the time" I made it clear that I did that only to prevent ppl from getting kicked.

I recall you were ingame for like 5 minutes max not really saying anything but "the password is changed now".

I did someone elses job back then so that ppl wouldn't have to switch from server to server as the nicklamer kept rejoining.
6  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 05:56:11 pm
to Clemens:

- read again - I said Groentjuh was okay with this kind of via_map_refpwd_change performed by me in PAST - the time when some guy obtained leaked ref pwd and kept kicking ppl for like 2 days randomly

- I've been told it was you - thats why I said it.. now we know whats up... I apologize for that.. but its more or less irrelevant who did it as the priority is to stop the hacking shit thats happening

- Ilegal action maybe but abuse? Certainly not. She used the password (to my knowledge) only to kick the bad guy from the server - which is by all means not abuse.
7  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 05:46:58 pm
You are jumping to all sorts of wrong conclusions based on your prejudice about us. You even wanna remove your maps because of assuming we're on some some crazy ego trip shit when all we wanted was to block any possible such map script abuses now that's been discovered. You're acting all riled up and crazy when nobody even accused you of anything!

And YOU're telling US that we should take it easy and discuss like rational people when all you do is flame and accuse us of crap. Grow up.

That's what I've been told.. so i guessed. And it is undeniable fact that Clemens does not like me. Again please, what kind of script are we talking about because I'm begining to feel like we are talking about 2 different things. Do you mean the "sv_godRefPassword" command that amy used or there is something more (in which case I apologize for misunderstanding)

And how come you did not know about that possibility? I even had some PM's with Clemens about possibilities of exploiting config server settings via mapfiles.

Nobody acused me of anything, yet you implied that I used/would use Amy's name for ... doing whatever..

I don't know Dae.. telling somebody to grow up Cheesy come on Tongue

PS: If I seem to be riled up and crazy it is only because your posts are tremendously arrogant (or at least they seem to be aimed that way) - I just counter what I get.
8  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 05:17:39 pm
Jezus Daemon come the hell on... you are bringing up some dictionary stuff and picking up irrelevant details. It does not matter who did it.. The point is you got a guy running around hacking shit up, while you keep chasing ppl that decided to do something with it - in more or less legal way just to help the ppl "in real time" - meaning not over the period of months - the time when they needed it - when the guy was online.

No hard feelings.. I just wanted to explain that shit.. not to argue about minor stuff.
9  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 04:16:29 pm
to ShuN:
- all Amy did was simply adding "sv_refGodPassword xxxxx" to the config file of the map
- as far as I know she is not ref anywhere (if yes.. I've been too inactive Tongue )
- the thing she added merely gave her ref status as she knew the password - so she could kick the bad guy stealing accounts
- yes kinixxx because its most played map Smiley
10  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 03:58:40 pm
All right so listen, first - I have no idea what Amy told you Daemon. Currently I'm inactive and quite frankly I'm happy I don't get involved into your hack-what-you-can thingie. This is what I know:

- Amy asked me how to change/set refpwd using the config of the map - as I've done in past to counter the guy who went ragemod with the leaked ref password (Groent and all of them refs knew about it at the time, I even gave the password to the refs)  - note: the changed pwd only works when the map is loaded (which was enough to kick the guy)

- I asked why and she told me theres some guy stealing accounts or whatever.. and that ppl are being mad about it because no refs were active at the time (because groent was fixing something ... or ?.. )

- So to my knowledge she modified the configs of kinixx and xr_wend - loaded the map/s afterwards to get the ref and kick the guy/guys (?)

- It seemed a little stupid to me - not the act but the actual lvl of fucks she gave to help the community somehow.. anyways I even told her somebody might get mad as you guys usually do...

- This morning amy msged me (yeah I'm not at home cuz of uni) that Clemens took her admin status so I naturally checked mine as I know clemens got a personal jihad going on against me Tongue

And now I'm here being accused of something I wouldnt even bother to do in the first place. I don't blame you guys.. and frankly I dont really care whether or not you blame amy for "abuse". It was her decision... hopefully she will learn to care less

TLDR:
- Amy changed stuff  - Not Misch as Misch does not care anymore
- Amy did not abuse the power, she only kicked the guy who was doing ilegal shit that ppl kept crying about
- GL with doing all the stuff you mentioned
- GL with mapping section without any active mapadmins

If you want some more explanation pm me date&time and we can schedule a teamspeak meeting as this is annoying to type.
11  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Announcement: Map Uploading Temporarily Disabled on: October 13, 2014, 01:13:25 pm
Those so called recent incidents were as far as I'm concerned necessery to keep the nicklaming whores out of the server. This was due to lack of any ref power on the server because... reasons? .. anyways ... actions taken in those "recent incidents" were used in past by me with approval of refs and Groentjuh (judging by the fact that he didn't say a word) - in the famous case called "english_slug with achiles or whoever with whatever - wildly abusing leaked ref pwd on Groent's server"

The point I'm trying to make is:
- there were no refs as nobody knew the password for whatever reason
- ppl went mad about their accs being infiltrated (or whatever)
- amy did not abuse the password, she merely kicked ppl that deserved to be kicked
- maps are clear of any "scripts" <such a profound name for sv_refGodPassword command>
- drk is a pussy once again.. or still? (meh)

Thats about it.. no rocket science.. just active mapadmins doing a service to the refless server.

PS: I lol to this moment about the "map scripts being abused" Cheesy you made it sound so serious
12  Savage XR / General Savage XR Discussion / Re: All djinghis clans deleted?? on: September 23, 2014, 07:10:38 pm
I'm just amazed by the fact that ppl still refer to djin as a girl..  Tongue
13  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Add these maps please! on: September 13, 2014, 08:06:16 am
As i've stated ingame... all the maps made by s2g are more playable and more aesthetically pleasing than puchi/kinixx Cheesy

And please don't bring up ts_minimax it was my first map and hugest mistake aaand I've put it offline multiple times. I was drunk and it wont happen again  Tongue
14  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Add these maps please! on: September 13, 2014, 06:21:32 am
Well in that case.. lets online all of the attila's maps which were specifically built for HCS server with modified settings. I've had some wonderful 3 hour games at maps like initial, ts_minitripfix, ts_minifour, ts_whateverthefuck and ts_anotherlamemap but I'm not putting it online because I know the following:
- most of them are ugly and old - yeah playablility over beauty.. we might aswell remove all the props from edtior then
- most of them are flat and annoying to play on - original s2g maps were not flat - savage is supposed to be also RTS meaning theres word strategy - and theres no strategy or tactic whatsoever in maps like kinixx (yeah i said it again.. whatever)
- most of them are campy/exploit maps - (self evident even at kinixx/puchi/thefuckistheremore)

I don't care whatever is being said in defense of those maps - undeniable facts are stated and "nostalgy" is not a reason to keep bad maps like 2nd_reality online.

PS: I dont even know why am I doing this as im not really that active anymore and theres literally noone that would agree with me, but I simply can't just stand around and watch this kind of stuff happen without at least saying "THE FUCK?!"
15  Savage XR / Mapping & Modding Forum / Re: Add these maps please! on: September 11, 2014, 06:15:33 am
I really don't have anything against anyone but keeping maps like 2nd-reality online just makes me wanna post evil things.  Undecided
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