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« on: September 19, 2015, 03:13:47 pm »

https://www.reddit.com/r/strife/comments/3eyfoo/clearing_the_air/







History/comparation of the Savage games:
http://savagexr.com/savage-2-vs-savage-1-xr.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 04:39:36 pm »

It's not really confirmed until they go out and say that they're making it, but it does seem like it would be Savage 3 because of what you highlighted in the first screenshot. I mean, something that would excite long time S2 fans? They haven't really had a lot of previous games that would fit into that category.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 05:00:07 pm »

History/comparation of the Savage games:
http://savagexr.com/savage-2-vs-savage-1-xr.html
'In 2014 Savage 2 completely died off'

Wrong. The matches are still held in the evenings.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 05:18:19 pm »

History/comparation of the Savage games:
http://savagexr.com/savage-2-vs-savage-1-xr.html
'In 2014 Savage 2 completely died off'

Wrong. The matches are still held in the evenings.

Yeah, in the last 30 days Savage 2 got back some activity. There was 8 times a game with a peak of 10 players in the evening. Earlier this year and also during summer there were times where there was no activity at all for almost a month. Savage 2 is dead. There's no point recommending to download the game to anyone because the probablity to find all servers empty is very high.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 05:49:37 pm »

It's not really confirmed until they go out and say that they're making it, but it does seem like it would be Savage 3 because of what you highlighted in the first screenshot. I mean, something that would excite long time S2 fans? They haven't really had a lot of previous games that would fit into that category.

Yeah, it's not confirmed but pretty obvious. If I remember right they once said that Savage 3 is only gonna happen if Strife succeeds. Let's hope they have the money and the balls to make it a worthy sequel this time Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 06:35:52 pm »

Savage 3? Hell yeah! Let's hope it won't be another Savage 2 though...
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2015, 11:17:05 pm »

Man, if Savage 3 is coming I'll be really excited.

Also, what the hell is with that comparison page? It's not so much comparing as trashing Savage 2...
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2015, 09:07:18 am »

Man, if Savage 3 is coming I'll be really excited.

Also, what the hell is with that comparison page? It's not so much comparing as trashing Savage 2...

Yes, if you ignore the fancy graphics and compare the games' gameplay features and history side by side, Savage 2 does indeed not shine as much as one would expect. I was actually surprised myself. It of course includes subjective preferences and also should do so since it's an opinion piece from savage 1 fans, but as for the facts it seems to be correct for the most part according to Savage 2 specialist S2stony:

Even when many words are like a piercing to my hear as i loved Savage2 very much I didnt find any Errors in the comparison so far.  Sure - much is written from a SavageXR-Fan-Point of view but mostly it is accurate. I would still be pleased if the comparison could be made a Little bit less biased.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2015, 09:27:56 am »

So how do we make sure the melee is still good?
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2015, 04:43:45 pm »

have anyone had a thought that this is actually a recreation of an existing savage game? and it will be named savage 3?

(>implying s2 are not gaben and will not be afraid to name their next title as 3 in the series)

https://www.reddit.com/r/strife/comments/2vkpav/strife_090_experimental_update/colfy9q?context=3
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2015, 06:30:11 pm »

have anyone had a thought that this is actually a recreation of an existing savage game? and it will be named savage 3?

(>implying s2 are not gaben and will not be afraid to name their next title as 3 in the series)

https://www.reddit.com/r/strife/comments/2vkpav/strife_090_experimental_update/colfy9q?context=3

Well, it's been over 12 years since the first release of Savage at the end of the golden era of multiplayer gaming (1996-2003). Rune, Tribes, Unreal Tournament and many other games are currently celebrating their return. If Savage could make its comeback before Half-Life and Quake, I'd be pretty excited. And if it is inspired by the most original, challenging and rewarding (real-time based) melee combat system ever designed, the hillarious extremes, unforgiving brutality, epic battles, freedom, speed and skill of Savage 1, I'll throw all my money at them, jump around like a little kid and tell all my friends about it.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2015, 02:36:50 am »

Not here to be a party pooper, nor I want the savage xr community to hate me.

I have a little thought that the new title won't be a recreation of savage xr, but actually a recreation of savage 2 (perhaps even a mix of both games)

nohate xr community I certainly don't try to deny a recreation of savage 1 but only a real thought I have based on things s2maliken said and based on events from the past.
 will post soon what I think happens and happened through all this time, but now it's time to sleep for me. Herrow!!! Herrow!!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2015, 03:09:37 pm »

If savage 3 is beeing made based on Savage xr, I think s2 games will be wise to communicate with atleast the representatives of savage xr, the newerth.com responsible admins and developers, and discuss how the game can be a worthy follow-up game and keep the positive sides of savage XR.  However, imagining they are that clever is hard, considering what they did with Savage 2...   Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2015, 03:26:31 pm »

Okay, here's the theory I said I had:

I think the new title of (the hoped to be) savage 3 would be either a recreation of savage 2 or a mix between savage 1 and 2
the reason for me to say that is mainly because

1.S2maliken really loves savage 2, he kept calling it his baby until right before 2014 (when he sort of denounced it from the s2games titles. Note that he did the same with savage xr)

2.after the success savage xr had he went on creating the next of the savage series

3. Savage 2 was not what the s2dev team planned the game to be, as far as I know savage 2 was to be in a scale of the battlefield series.  

There were videos and pictures of mounted gameplay aside from what I have just showed

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I was wondering have they released anything about the horses I've seen them riding in the videos and in sceenshots? If so is it scout only? Plus where do they come from do they spawn by a building or do they just wander?

Thanks

Saddenly, there are no where to be found (or perhaps it's someone's wish to keep them a secret)

Not only that, they planned to have walls, gates, castles, and a big scale game like said above.

They had a lot of expectation to the game until the data loss right before the release (savage 2 is the salvaged remainings of the game they tried to build, and the release is just to gain the money they wasted creating it)


which creates the motive for maliken to recreate the game like he planned to make, now with nextgen technology and way more experince than what he had in the past.

and I think he is constantly bothered from what the game "Attempted to be" and not achieving the goals made for it.

"game with a lot of potential turns to be a big dissapointment"

I think due to the potential savage 2 had, and the success savage xr had he will go ahead and create some sort of a mix of the 2.
 and now after creating HoN in a very proffesional way (well, HoN was designed better and created better as well) he might have the confidence to get back on the old savage project.

The game company after all is called s2games, and S represents savage (always have in my opinion)
S2maliken still calls himself maliken and not after some louzy hero he has on strife.

I don't think he ever let go on the savage series project

Another reason for me to suspect it's a recreation or a mix of the savage games is this

The last thread on the savage 2 forums.

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Do you love Savage 2?

Does playing Savage 2 pain you?

What about your Savage 2 experience (not gameplay) frustrates you the most?

Have you ever experienced the quality, polish, stability, and optimization of Heroes of Newerth (which believe it or not is built on the same K2 engine that powers Savage 2)?

What if Savage 2 saw the same improvements in it's social aspects (buddy list, clan, IMs, chat, pre game interfaces, etc...), renderer improvements and optimizations, smoother netcode, all new super clean, scalable interfaces?

What if those improvements were underway?

Speculate..........

He made one thread never posted there again, but I am positive he was reading all of the feedback from 2010 to 2012

Why not doing the same kind of thread on savage xr? That's because I think he knows where he got it right on savage xr.

savage 3 is not HoN nor Strife, I think these 2 games were meant to regain money from the fuck ups they had in savage 2.
and I believe they started to work on savage 3 since 2010 (if you do the math between the time it took them release savage 2 between savage 1 sums up to about 5 years, consider them making a small team for a secret project of savage 3 while the big team focuses on HoN and strife.

sums up to about 6-7 years.

Conclusion: savage 3 is still a secret project but soon to be released, therefore recent announcement for the "new title and that's all what I'm going to say".

They have worked on it for the past 5-6 years and will continue to work on it for presumabley another year, or maybe even 2 years.

We are to hope for castles, perhaps even mounts, more siege equipment, , human vs human games ( I mean come on, we'd all want to use the battering ram on an actual gate or a wall and not a fucking "building"), beasts vs beasts (if human can do it, why not beasts) games, and of course hums vs beasts (note on that, perhaps they will make more factions to make humans vs humans and beasts vs beasts a more logical place) knights, monsters, healers, wisards?.
everything is possible in this upcoming title.


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this theory might be correct assuming maliken isn't fucking with us, and actually is going to announce a sequel for the savage series
in other words: none of this theory has any evidence supporting it, only information from the past and the fact he said the new title will excite long s2 fans.

This all could be wrong and we would fall down in dissapointment.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2015, 03:28:49 pm »

If savage 3 is beeing made based on Savage xr, I think s2 games will be wise to communicate with atleast the representatives of savage xr, the newerth.com responsible admins and developers, and discuss how the game can be a worthy follow-up game and keep the positive sides of savage XR.  However, imagining they are that clever is hard, considering what they did with Savage 2...   Undecided
like I said before, they probably have gotten cleverer when it comes to game designing.

They learnt from some of their mistakes, the design, and promoting strategy for HoN is so much different than savage xr and savage 2, and they had big success and had a lot of money gain.

I don't think they will step on the same mistakes they had 12-14 years ago.
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