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« on: July 14, 2009, 07:58:06 pm »



Dark Lady Guide

Skill List

Dark Blades
-Increases base damage temporarily, also gives her attacks the ability to silence enemies (sort of like an orb).

Taint Soul
-Silences temporarily, does damage, reduces enemy ms.

Charging Strike
-Blink and does damage to all units you pass through.

Cover of Darkness
-Removes shared vision from enemy heroes and reduces ms slightly, vision significantly.

Skill build
Charging Strike
Taint Soul
Taint Soul
Dark Blades
Taint Soul
Cover of Darkness
Taint Soul
Charging Strike
Charging Strike
Charging Strike
Cover of Darkness
Dark Blades
Dark Blades
Dark blades
Stats
Cover of Darkness
Stats...

If you are in a solo lane consider leveling dark blades before level 4 for the extra damage boost, it helps last hitting significantly.

Role of Dark Lady
She is a ganker. Her abilities allow her to silence multiple enemies and do some decent damage early-midgame vs her enemies. Don't be fooled by the fact that she is an agility melee hero.

Some things to remember.
You are going to want to be the one intiating, since you are the silencer, slower, and blink machine.

The one level of dark blades at level 4 can be utilized with charging strike to silence all enemies you charge through.

Cover of Darkness is both a defensive and an offensive ability. Use it to foil enemy ganks, gank enemies, turn the tide of teamfights. It is a very strong ability.

Item build for Dark Lady
Because she is an agility melee hero, yet is a caster unit, she is very unique and as such can be built a number of different ways. This is the build that i use.

At start

2 Pretender Crowns a Healing Potion and Runes of the Blight





Later on
Bottle
Wards
Marchers




Midgame
2x Talisman or 2x Bracelet, or one of each
Post Haste or Steam Boots

or


or


Lategame

Hellflower


Justification of item build
Due to the fact that you are a melee hero, with poor int and str, it's reasonable to get some regen early with runes and healing pot.

Despite the fact that she is an agility hero she needs hp and mana early-midgame, this depends on the game primarily. The bottle and talisman should cover her mana issues, or if she really needs hp she can get bracelets.

Post Haste vs Steam Boots
This is really how well you are farming, ganking. If you have the money, post haste boots are a great idea, but in most cases you will be going steam boots. I recommend going steam boots in the attribute that you didn't pump points into earlier on (int if you went bracelets and str if you went talismans).

Hellflower
Due to charging strike, Taint, and Dark Blades, she can silence and damage the other team pretty well. However this item improves her dps, solves her mana problems once and for all, and lets her silence another enemy as well and increase the damage done to that enemy. This is a great item on her.

Alternative build

Farm/Carry Dark Lady

Skill build is a little different, you are going to want leap maxed earlier, although you still want the nuke.
Skill build
1 Charging Strike
2 Mark of Darkness
3 Mark
4 Charging Strike
5 Mark
6 Cover of Darkness
7 Charging Strike
8 Mark
9 Charging Strike
10 Stats/Dark Blades
11 Stats/Dark Blades
12 Stats/Dark Blades
13 Stats/Dark Blades
14 Stats
15 Cover of Darkness
16 Cover of Darkness
Stats onward

Item build
Same as the other build at start
2x Pretenders crown
1x Runes of the Blight
1x Healing Potion

Midgame
2x Soulscream Ring(Wraith Bands)
1x Steam Boots (Treads) (Str)
1x Apprentice's Robe (Robe of the Magi)

Later on
Nullfire Blade (Diffusal)
Abyssal Skull (Vlads)

Extravagent Items for farmers to consider getting after Nullfire Blade
Hack&Slash (Sange&Yasha)
Hellflower (Orchid)
Runed Axe (Bfury)
Frostwolf's Skull (Skadi)
Shrunken Head (BKB)

FAQ

omfg noob why do u skip cover at 11? noob l2p dark lady.
With this build, it's built towards a more lategame-oriented dark lady and her mana pool is far from sufficient to support 2 points in cover before level 15/16.

why no runed axe? WOW l2p DL ROFL.
I mentioned runed axe as an additional luxury item you might consider getting for her after nullfire blade. It's a decent item on her but nullfire/abyssal is easier to farm and help her with more than just farming.

lol str steam boots, noob?
She really needs the hp bonus early-midgame for farming/surviving/ganking.

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 01:49:58 pm by evilleader » Logged

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 12:29:15 pm »

hey dudes, i updated my guide with another build that is much more effective if you're playing her as more of a farmer and less as a ganker.

Alternative build

Farm/Carry Dark Lady

Skill build is a little different, you are going to want leap maxed earlier, although you still want the nuke.
Skill build
1 Charging Strike
2 Mark of Darkness
3 Mark
4 Charging Strike
5 Mark
6 Cover of Darkness
7 Charging Strike
8 Mark
9 Charging Strike
10 Stats/Dark Blades
11 Stats/Dark Blades
12 Stats/Dark Blades
13 Stats/Dark Blades
14 Stats
15 Cover of Darkness
16 Cover of Darkness
Stats onward

Item build
Same as the other build at start
2x Pretenders crown
1x Runes of the Blight
1x Healing Potion

Midgame
2x Soulscream Ring(Wraith Bands)
1x Steam Boots (Treads) (Str)
1x Apprentice's Robe (Robe of the Magi)

Later on
Nullfire Blade (Diffusal)
Abyssal Skull (Vlads)

Extravagent Items for farmers to consider getting after Nullfire Blade
Hack&Slash (Sange&Yasha)
Hellflower (Orchid)
Runed Axe (Bfury)
Frostwolf's Skull (Skadi)
Shrunken Head (BKB)

FAQ

omfg noob why do u skip cover at 11? noob l2p dark lady.
With this build, it's built towards a more lategame-oriented dark lady and her mana pool is far from sufficient to support 2 points in cover before level 15/16.

why no runed axe? WOW l2p DL ROFL.
I mentioned runed axe as an additional luxury item you might consider getting for her after nullfire blade. It's a decent item on her but nullfire/abyssal is easier to farm and help her with more than just farming.

lol str steam boots, noob?
She really needs the hp bonus early-midgame for farming/surviving/ganking.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 01:42:48 pm »

Hey man, thank you for replying and telling us about the updated guide!

I will edit the changes, thank you!  cool
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 08:27:46 pm »

try this,

early-mid:

abyssal, steamboots

mid:

runed axe
riftshards

late:

more riftshards
wingbow

with these items, you can crit charge for 1200+ its a devastating build
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 06:25:27 am »

the runed axe is really only good for farming and pushing lanes, the regen is a nice touch. I would go for shieldbreaker after steamboots and 2 soulscream rings, then nullfire, THEN riftshards. The nullfire slow is just so goddamn handy, it cannot be skipped.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 05:43:28 pm »

I've got another Item build for her.

In start I buy ( with 600 gold , 5v5 ) a Logger Hatchet, a Runes of Blight and a Iron buckler.

Then farm some till you can afford a Lifetube in outpost , then get Manatube from Secret Shop.

After that , depending if you get much creep kills or even som kills get marchers OR get a Broadsword/Bastard Sword, finnish of Runed axe, if you die alot then get Enhanced Marchers before Runed.

Then get the whispering skull helm for even more damage and some lifesteal and 5+ armor for surviveing better.

Then I usually go for riftshards lvl 4.

IF you get all this, then it's gg .. you hit for like 300/hit WITHOUT dark blades activated and 20% to crit.

And your Runed Axe helps you with mana, you should'nt go oom. afro
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 02:19:31 pm »

I never get why people neglect the cleaving attack in runed axe. Yes the mana regen is nice, but it's ridiculous to buy this item without any regard to the massive farming enhancer the cleaving is, and more importantly late game; how devastating the cleaving attack can be in clashes. It's obvious that DL is dependet on a teammate combo (tempest, keeper etc. for the cleaving to have full effect), but the simple combo of cleaving and DL's ulti is pretty decent in itself. DL's ulti makes most teams gather up closely not to loose vision = amazing cleaving output. If they don't, they risk getting lost = the very point of DL's ulti anyway.
The dive DL makes to enter a clash is not to be overlooked either, since cleaving stacks with Charging Strikes. This sums up to a ridiculous splash if the enemy team is in a creepwave. 5 heroes + 5 creeps = a potential of 315% splash dmg in addition to hitting all the targets with Charging Strikes - all in an instant.
You could argue that this is not relevant untill the dmg output on DL is high, which would put Runed after items like Savage and/or riftshards, but to completely ignore this perfect synergy between Charging strikes and Cleaving is rarely beneficial imo.
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