Mafia 2 - Healers' War - GAME OVER

[Gridfon]

Only two people who I put faith in. And it's not Arjey and not IgorS.

One can only put faith in his follow mafia members. Or fellow traitors. It's a shame a total number of 3 mafias sounds not enough, and a total number of 3 traitors sounds too much.

[Tjens]

It looks to me they're not that stupid aswell. Moxy was one of the only ones I trusted to be a townie, seeing him getiing killed is a bad sign since they seem to be going for active, experienced people.

Getting Envious killed is nice! I guessed the least active guy was the most suspicious one to me lol, kind of contradicting myself there from earlier statements.

That's sais, I can't guess the reason why he picked Arjey next to Tinki to raise attention on? It could either be a bluff to protect Tinki, us assuming Arjey is human and all - or a way to shift our focus on Arjey, as if he's protecting him. Or just to raise confusion?? I'll look through Envious writing style a little more, and check if his last desperation message deviates from his usual posting.

[valli]

I was on a trip to Latvia Thu-Sun, ....

So from thursday to sunday

Yes I got home, ....

but then you are home at Saturday, when the day ended.

I would normally expect everyone to understand the obvious details like that.

It's not that obvious that Saturday is now Sunday.

Oh and sorry that I get persistent and picky, but that's my job here, or am I wrong?

[mopok]

Sorry i was so inactive, i am skiing in a big race and i broke my hand today i will try to be as active as possible, and as i said last i still think arjey is very much so suspicous, from his voting style and trying to just blow off attacks aimed at him by using faces.  I will continue my vote on arjey to today.
f1 arjey

[Gridfon]

So from thursday to sunday
[...]
but then you are home at Saturday, when the day ended.

For me trip to Latvia means trip to my parents home for 3 days. It means I'm out in the town rushing to do things I can do only once in several months. And not sit in front of computer. Apart from evenings, of course.

I'm eagerly awaiting when you start asking me to prove whether I was actually on a trip, whether I didn't lie about the days, whether that was indeed Latvia, and similar questions.

[valli]

So from thursday to sunday
[...]
but then you are home at Saturday, when the day ended.

For me trip to Latvia means trip to my parents home for 3 days. It means I'm out in the town rushing to do things I can do only once in several months. And not sit in front of computer. Apart from evenings, of course.

I'm eagerly awaiting when you start asking me to prove whether I was actually on a trip, whether I didn't lie about the days, whether that was indeed Latvia, and similar questions.

That is enough excuse now. How shall I know man ...

[Tjens]

we're not allowed to post pictures, but you could always make some ACII art from your photos!

[Gridfon]

who visited hakus place night 2 feathers? oh wait you.

No i wasn't, don't spin lies.

Although I share the suspicions about Arjey, I would also like to understand what happened between Feathers and Moxy. One of them clearly lied. Now that Moxy was killed, we know his role (converted stalker) which is not BBB and very likely not a traitor. Previous game Daemon was explicitly using a word "traitor" when writing down the official roles. That makes me believe Feathers was the one who lied, not Moxy.

[pizlo]

It seems that the BBB typically beheads and puts those heads on stakes. Perhaps they used an alternate killing method last night.

[Feathers]

I do not understand why Moxy said that, when i wasn't there, the only reason i can give was he hit back at me to relieve pressure, when i was pressuring him about his role. Remember Robin claimed to know who was in Hakugei's room....which i believe led to Hakugei saying Moxy was in his room? (on phone so unable to view any previous pages, sorry)

[saaaaaaaaaaaasuke!]

f1 tjens

[valli]

Feathers, I don't believe you, forget it, why should Moxy lie when he was a townie. You know what you get for that lame statement:

F1 Feathers

[Dervun]

Looks like Envious saved my life tonight, which is great, because my role collapsed this morning, leaving me without further NTA. BBB, you can tell your blocker to suck it, what he did won't change anything.

From the scratch:
N1 i investigated Mopok, because i had absolutely no experience with him. It's highly likely he is clean.
N2 i investigated Moxy due to a hunch and he came up innocent
N3 i investigated Envious, but i wasn't able to read him at all. Wondering why, i pushed against him, as i wanted to know if i receive correct results and if this is a usual result for an investigation on a BBB member. Rest of the story is obvious, Robin commited suicide D3 and i continued on D4.
N4 i investigated Arjey and he is innocent, he just plays it the Mafia way (that's why i chose him in first place).
N5 i investigated Leodasvacas and he is guilty. This was pretty obvious, he was active, but his only actions were to draw attention away from him. He tried to stall the game.

Therefore: F1 Leodasvacas

To conclude some more..
When Daemon handed out my role he said i was already old and weak. It didn't occur to me it had meaning in it, but it has. The level of aggressivity in Leos room broke me, for the rest of the game i will have to sleep during nights, hence becoming a regular Townie.
However, this night i also found out about the Mafia blocker. He starts a fire outside of his targets room, resulting in a wall of flames. The target can carry out his NTA, as i did, but won't be able to do it next night, which is in my case somehow funny.
This also means Moxys blocker was indeed a Townie.

Btw, last day we lynched the Master Assassin. I guess that's why Moxy wasn't decapitated. Leave it to an unexperienced killer and the setup won't be impressive anymore!

I might come up with my opinion on current events later, as i was mostly skimming through todays posts. Though i can say now, from reading Feathers last post, it seems he is Mafia.

[valli]

Good, so we either go now for Leo or Feathers, you others decide, remember 2 more votes and we can get a role statement. So go for it I want to have there roles, Feathers especially yours.

[happy]

I don't know how Env saved your life, Devrun, but I follow you since you were the initiator of our first successful lynch and seem to have a promising hint due to your NTA.
Also, Leodasvacas' reasons to vote Tinki were pretty weak.
F1 Leodasvacas