Mafia 2 - Healers' War - GAME OVER

[Skuggi]

Skuggi, My only close-to-proof that items are major in this game (this is something I can't confirm for myself even, with the info I'm given), is Robin's claim:

oh and i know who is in Hakugei's Room  

he says he knows who was in Haku's room. Him being a spire gardener, my educated guess is he used an item like a flower or something. I don't know how else a spire gardener could scout, assuming Robin was telling the truth (the bastard was always unclear).

I'd like to request Robin5Hood's role. If Daemon caught it and removed it before anyone else saw it, that's great and we don't need it. If some people saw it and others didn't, that seems slightly unfair. I can send an e-mail if that's preferable.

[ENvIouS]

Agreed, either make it public or private, not in the middle.

[Moxy]

Agreed too.

[tinki]

no i haven't been targetted yet if so i would tell

[Feathers]

Skuggi, My only close-to-proof that items are major in this game (this is something I can't confirm for myself even, with the info I'm given), is Robin's claim:

oh and i know who is in Hakugei's Room  

he says he knows who was in Haku's room. Him being a spire gardener, my educated guess is he used an item like a flower or something. I don't know how else a spire gardener could scout, assuming Robin was telling the truth (the bastard was always unclear).

I'd like to request Robin5Hood's role. If Daemon caught it and removed it before anyone else saw it, that's great and we don't need it. If some people saw it and others didn't, that seems slightly unfair. I can send an e-mail if that's preferable.

Daemon distributed roles then explains each one fully after the game, I've already asked Daemon what was a Spire Gardener.

If you look at the first page it does say Robin was a student Chaplin though.

[Gridfon]

Where?

"Robin5Hood, Spire Gardener, has committed suicide."

[Feathers]

my bad read Phoenix's role 

[ENvIouS]

Feathers you always skim and make mistakes! 

[Tjens]

You are right all of your post are filled with lots of thoughts and value, I take that back, still we got Tjens and Sasuke left, which are sitting more in the background!

I voted on Tinki and my vote is staying on him for now. I'm watching how the moxy/feathers/envious thing unvolves right now, I might have some intresting contributions to make later on. ; )

[valli]

F3

The more I read, the more confusing it gets lately...

[Dervun]

Personnaly i think i said enough about Envious. His role most likely favors Mafia, even if it were on Towns side - that's illogical, hence he is Mafia.
This game features around 8 Mafiosi, out of which at least one will be a traitor.
The killer won't leave an object, the godfather maybe, but i highly doubt it. This leaves us with max 5 scumbags using objects.
Now let's check on the examples Envious gave:
- demorunners: Unless Mafia has the chance for two kills in one night (i don't think so), this role doesn't exist or is pro-Town
- sensors: Sounds like a powerfull tool for investigations, rather related to Town

No matter how you twist it, if some Townies use objects, he is on the Mafia side. Check the roles from previous game on Newerth, every powers similiar to his were on Mafia side. I understand Daemon never uses the same setup twice, but changing the side of roles without a good reason seems very far fetched

Furthermore, his explanation on his target for N1 is bogus, nothing to add on this one.

This is as safe as a lynch can possibly get. I suggest my fellow Townies to vote Envious off. I'm glad you guys are talking about other options, but let's face it, with less than 20 hours left until deadline, we will either lynch Envious, Tinki or noone. Envious is the better choice here.

[Faun]

I can imagine there's a very powerful (single time) NTA of placing once a democharge into s/es room. still it seems slightly op to me. nonetheless I give out my F1 Tjens, since I'm drunk and I don't understand his keeping of the Tinki vote. I think some BBB are already pushing Tinki's bandwagon, knowing he's not one of theirs. He still could be a traitor, but I think I believe his role-claim, especially rewarding his obvious newbie status.

[mind]

Dervun makes sense. But Tinki his role suits a mafia role Clemens once had. So …

I've said it once before. Envious or Tinki pick chose and lynch. I'd say we have a high chance of getting a BBB that way.

Dervun is to blame for my vote to change again though. F2 Tinki F1 Envious

I didn't see the inconsistency in his post yet until Dervun pointed them out. I only cared to know for what he did N2, N3 and N4. And I didn't hear what I wanted to hear.

[ENvIouS]

In all fairness, assuming me and tinki have an equal chance of being mafia (from your point of view), Which player is more valuable to the Townies? Tinki, who hasn't contributed anything, unclear and short posts, or I, who actually tries to find truth, and posts often and contributes ideas?

[mind]

My gut says you are innocent Envious. But Dervun has made some good points that I can't ignore. Since they were the points for why I think you were mafia.

Last night I had the strange feeling I had to vote for Arjey