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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2007, 06:05:59 pm »

Pancake put the League on hold until the stats system is online (with the first release of XR) and not using the snapshot image from 3 weeks ago. People are going to wonder why they can't login with newly created clan accounts.
Whaaa??? What do I have to do with the league?!?!
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2007, 09:32:12 pm »

My bad dont type when your tired.
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2007, 11:27:35 pm »

Big lol, since when we got 1 loss?   cheesy grin   
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2007, 02:11:15 am »

Current map list. Feel free to make suggestions, I will listen (baring your name is Pancake and/or you're an idiot).

alcazar_fix
alpenglow_b
alpinevalley
battlefront
blood_fix
bunker
choke_fixed
crossroads
doublehead_sep
eden2
flow1d
haven
losthills
morning_sep
moss
mosswoods_sep
raw1_sep
riverbend_sep
savagegrounds
snowblind
tropical
watershipdown2
whiteout3
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2007, 02:16:12 am »

spookyfinal
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2007, 04:05:34 am »

lostjungle2_d
dantooine
ts_pancake_final
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2007, 04:16:49 am »

Current map list. Feel free to make suggestions, I will listen (baring your name is Pancake and/or you're an idiot).

alcazar_fix
alpenglow_b
alpinevalley
battlefront
blood_fix
bunker
choke_fixed
crossroads
doublehead_sep
duskhills
eden2
flow1d
haven
losthills
lostwinter
morning_sep
moss
nohope
raw1_sep
riverbend_sep
snowblind
spookyfinal
tropical
watershipdown2
whiteout3

Added spookyfinal, removed frost.

Haven is an outrageous beast map, especially for a clan match.
Nohope maybe less so, but still a pretty bad clan match map imo
Spookyfinal is not a good map to play clan matches on, really, it shouldn't be a game that the beast team is forced to sac rush in order to win effectively.
Eden2 should be changed to Eden2_fixed to settle any exploit issues with summoners in the water
Watershipdown2 should be switched to Watershipdownb (I believe that's the newer version w/o mines in the middle and other things like mist walls.
I'd vote battlefront out but it's too much of a classic, and imo it can be won with a coordinated human team.


Other maps I think you should consider:
alpenglow_b (Kinda a beast map though)
frogspath1f
mosswoods_sep
struggle (Possible exploiting through mid though, but I'd expect this to be kosher because it's a clan match)
Zaelor

The only one I don't support 100% would be alpenglow, but it is a good map. Spookyfinal is not a map that I'd agree with to put on a clanmatch list, if you really want me to go in details I can, but I detest the map.

and F2 to ts_pancake_final, dantooine, and lostjungle (just because there are already 2 losthills map variations on the list)
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2007, 04:43:51 am »

ok, y not spooky?
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2007, 05:14:19 am »

It's such a human biased map with any coordination at all, that it requires the beast team to sac rush to end it, or the game ends in a huge stalemate. The terrain is terribly balanced towards stalemates, any half ass comm can make a pretty indestructable base if they have two players with the ability to shoot 40% coil, and to top it all off the map is pretty big. Huge stalemate maps are not good for clan matches, and there are enough sac rush maps already imo.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2007, 05:34:06 am »

Haven is an outrageous beast map, especially for a clan match.
Will wait on another opinion.

Nohope maybe less so, but still a pretty bad clan match map imo
Humans have more chance to win than usual on nohope, it's more balanced than most other maps.

Spookyfinal is not a good map to play clan matches on, really, it shouldn't be a game that the beast team is forced to sac rush in order to win effectively.
I hate spooky, but I only added it because Bendizzle and Cutter suggested it at the same time. It's not a good clan map, nor a good map in general, I'm taking it off the list.

Eden2 should be changed to Eden2_fixed to settle any exploit issues with summoners in the water
Eden2_fixed is not uploaded to the servers, as it's still in development for whatever reason.

Watershipdown2 should be switched to Watershipdownb (I believe that's the newer version w/o mines in the middle and other things like mist walls.
I chose the one that was in the Newerth rotation, and there really isn't much of a difference to warrant going against it.

I'd vote battlefront out but it's too much of a classic, and imo it can be won with a coordinated human team.
Battlefront is a classic and humans have more of a fighting chance.

Other maps I think you should consider:
alpenglow_b (Kinda a beast map though)
frogspath1f
mosswoods_sep
struggle (Possible exploiting through mid though, but I'd expect this to be kosher because it's a clan match)
Zaelor
Alpenglow is already on the list, frogspath and mosswoods don't strike me as match maps, but I added mosswoods, struggle sucks and is exploitable, and I'll add zaelor.

The only one I don't support 100% would be alpenglow, but it is a good map. Spookyfinal is not a map that I'd agree with to put on a clanmatch list, if you really want me to go in details I can, but I detest the map.
Waiting on another opinion of alpenglow.
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2007, 08:29:22 am »

Savagegrounds is an excellent cw map imo.
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« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2007, 10:28:53 am »

Savagegrounds is an excellent cw map imo.

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« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2007, 10:31:46 am »

and now? Maybe its possible to set up some clans manuel?

Yeh whats master pingu say? ^^


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« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2007, 01:18:05 pm »

savagegrounds is excellent yes (might be a bit big if its just a 6 vs 6.... but id really liek to see savageground)

nohope in a cw lol? its absolutely terrible XD
lostwinter AND losthills? imo remove lostwinter: too much gold on the map (aka not balanced)
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« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2007, 02:06:05 pm »

savagegrounds is excellent yes (might be a bit big if its just a 6 vs 6.... but id really liek to see savageground)

nohope in a cw lol? its absolutely terrible XD
lostwinter AND losthills? imo remove lostwinter: too much gold on the map (aka not balanced)

+ the snow house preventing sub to get killed from humms hill.
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